ANDY: So, the first song on the record is called "The Phoenix".

PATRICK: Uh, it's a song that, um- it kinda happened very quickly and then very slowly. We started with, um, this initial burst of inspiration, um, and then it kinda took us a while to figure it out how to finish off the rest of the song. Um, but, it was one of the most exciting songs for us, I think.

PETE: Yeah, it's awesome. I feel like, um, definitely reminds me of, y'know, a teenager in the summer when they're around in the fireworks and skateboards.

ANDY: The song to me kinda encapsulates the rebirth, I guess. And y'know, kinda the idea behind the record. To-for me, y'know, that way.

PATRICK: There was a time up to getting this song written where I was- I wasn't- it was like "everything was good" but, I didn't feel like my like- like I was in all of it yet. And when I heard this song back the first time, I was like, "it just changed the entire record for me". So the whole, the whole thing, y'know, that's one of the reasons why it's a great first track for us.

JOE: I like to think, like the music, the music in the chorus is so cool, there's like, kinda like a couple different counter-melodies going on that I think all, like, they all like have totally different vibes on there, but when they come together, it can make something incredibly epic.